China's freedom of expression-freedom-Sima Nan and the United Kingdom the inscription of dialogue record Reuters: universal value ideological discourse right voting style democracy Wang Yang new authoritarianism China change fast enough, they also fast enough, they may be a natural fit for racing, or malicious to roll-over China.
This kind of "voting style democracy" radical proposition, this kind of "superstition," declared the election campaigns, is a pretty terrible. My age who experienced the cultural revolution, at that time, Daming, big drop, halls, the great debate, numerous organizations (political parties) are up in arms, Chairman Mao is still the absolute authority, society is also a mess. It's a great democracy, post-modern sense of democracy, however, and orderly society cannot afford. Where people who have experienced the cultural revolution, few would favour radical political change, "universal values" under the banner of radical political change that allowed how offin in China, also is not affected by the question to see. Reuters reporters: Sima teacher, you know, I went to the scene of the Wenchuan earthquake, how do you know this event this event on China? the future development of what is the significance? and you and the "Southern weekend" expands on the universal value of the argument that a lot of foreigners is very difficult to understand, this really mean? Sima NaN: earthquake first in no hurry to say, has also been said enough. Journalists often like finding a topic first preheating, I prefer candor, direct say universal value argument? Reuters reporter: okay. Sima NaN: debate on universal values, not only is a bit difficult to understand for foreigners, some people may not know what in the contend. Universal values, with a bit of a mouthful of academic color, but both sides not only to academic controversy. Nor is the General term concept, much less emotional impulse only the debate between his tongue. The core of the dispute relates to the national life and death, in particular, it should be how to treat 30 years China through? how to treat the reality of what China's future in China? go what? just two days before participated in Shantou "30 years of reform and opening up the humanities and social science" as the theme of a cultural Forum, "the Fourth Cultural Forum". There is a law, sociology, psychology, media studies, philosophy, history, popular literature ... Each discipline leader full present, discussion was very enthusiastic. Three-day Conference, I once did not speak, without even a Word. I listened attentively, listen to these scholars from the culture at home and abroad on many issues, listen to them on each discipline focus on the issues raised. Hear the last, I found that removing the differences between the various disciplines, the core issue only a skeleton — station in what positions, what kind of attitude, an evaluation of the 30 year? and thus to 60 years, in 2000, how to evaluate what about China? 30 years of change in the inner changes?, to Chinese history and culture are looking for, or to the modern Western world module to find?, future China continues to follow yesterday has gone through, proved a successful model, on the irregularities "emancipation" to be improved, or forced to accept some kind of political philosophy, a realistic imitation of Western models, clear history, with a view to achieving the fundamental points of the revolutionary? here, this is a new cultural movement in combination with since the faces of old problems in a new background continue or that old problems need to be in the new context of the new interpretation. Based on these issues of interpretation, in particular with practical problems in interpretation of Chinese society, intellectuals is divided into left and right (Liberal), in turn, be further subdivided. Interestingly, most intellectuals are denied public opinion to their label affixed. Based on universal values in MLM (multilevel marketing in China universal value, and universal value itself is not a concept) attitude, as if you can identify who is left (including the so-called new left), however, experience other problems, such as Yang killing what interpretation, the position of the left party is blurred, sometimes better than the left-right go further away. Mr. Chris Bucklel, you know what I mean? sorry, your Chinese listening, I am such a speed, your understanding is no problem I will try to slow down. Reuters reporter: you can now. I have read your blog. Sima NaN: College model to study Chinese, read the written language, more often than spoken language easier to conduct in-depth thinking, you go back and listen again slowly. Chinese business is complex, universal values of things more complicated, difficult in a nutshell. Last night I wrote an article on Singapore Joint morning news commentator, Zheng yongnian. Reuters reporter: I know, I used to interview him. Sima NaN: his basic points of comparison with me: first, the West has no right to universal values is defined, which means that it cannot be determined by the West. He believes that a lot of people look at look at Western, such as the United States, there is taste of "Utopia". The title of his article is called "cannot use the" utopian "look of universal value." In reality, the Western developed countries there is no doubt than we develop early, some aspects of perfection than we. Domestic some people read the writings of some Western scholars later (they do not have long experience of life in the West), with imagination, take it for granted that Western societies as Western scholars book inside the picture. He was not aware that the theoretical arguments and realistic level may be differentiated, photo shoot out of sight on often beautiful than reality. They just according to your own imagination, think the West is so beautiful, so beautiful, so should be in their mouth and writings, Western like beautiful. This is probably one of the reasons of utopia. The Sino-Japanese war, the Qing dynasty was Japan, former students, a small country reverted to play a good dusting, unprecedented humiliation that people completely lost their cultural self-confidence. People could not understand, why China will meet today's fate? so some people will complain that they find reasons in terms of culture, from the start complaining that the fathers is Chinese culture as well. In contrast, Western convenience all right up. Because of the extreme are not confidence, formed a number people wrong thinking, this error has been fixed type of thinking to the lineage of today. So heBelieve universal value of the argument is that the West is the West stand, it must be good, so urgent to universal values to "formatting" in China today. If you like my MIDI friends advocates, practicing the universal value, positive "to honour commitments on universal values," said the "China model" I'm afraid is precarious. Strictly speaking, the "China model" has not yet been universally recognized, but continuous 30 years at this speed, in such a backward country, in a quarter of the world's population within the full realization of the human history have had, this is a landmark achievement. Walk the path of China today, it is possible and the United States, and the United Kingdom United States teachers, and other European countries. No matter what your China travel, cannot be denied that her old tree branches a rapidly changing reality. China to go the way of logic even in the end is what? China model would include Africa, third world countries have a kind of inspiration and guiding role? whether China can embark on a on call "harmonious society", called "peaceful rise" independent road? if not given in accordance with Westerners that adhere to own the road, is not practicing, or rebel a universal value? universal values and Chinese mode is a? the implied "mode of" I'm afraid is the universal value argument of a background. There is also a background, it is about the democratic issues ... Reuters reporters: democracy, what is your judgement? Sima NaN: I'd like to confess his judgement: Chinese society today may not rush to voting for "democracy". The reason is very simple, even if China's political all the way in accordance with the United States, it seems that do not have to be worried, today's so-called democracy United States as a "representative", instead of ballots, elections, has your country today also in the "constitutional monarchy" stage, why China United States than in the United States also? "Southern weekend" and Dushi represented southern newspapers, they advocated in China for radical changes, encourage followers of readers the believe in the power of votes (the southern weekend commentator, famous essays home Mr. editorial title yanlieshan). The problem is the people, like the United States does not then believe in the power of the ballot, the ballot because they know that programming is more important. The fact is, who will be the President, not votes to decide. If you press yanlieshan belief that once in 2000, elected President of the United States should be Mr. Gore, and should not be Mr. Bush. Bush in his brothers when the Governor of Florida's more than just 537 votes Gore, election, dystocia 36 days. The Supreme Court has sentenced the Bush won the election, what a guy in Florida, Florida 27 electoral college votes are owned by Bush. In this way, Bush only more than Al Gore 5 electoral college votes, but fewer national you 54 million ballots! obviously lost votes. But the judges determine the Bush was elected, the last district hundreds of "electoral college" votes is powerful, the judges votes are more powerful. Yanlieshan article title should be changed to "believe that the electoral college votes have force of law, the judge believed the tickets more power" (laughs) ... The problem is not a democracy of the judges of the produce. South of people may not know the facts, it may not be willing to disseminate the facts, the more likely to express the simple and delicious on, simple with rebel implies that the slogan of deconstructive, always conducive to the mobilization of adapting its newspaper readers of taste for many years. Even if we follow the Western democratic constitutional theory to the practice of democracy, the power of the ballot papers must be in the power of using the rule of law was able to play a role in which democracy and the rule of law requires certain conditions of society. Today's world, it is difficult to cite examples of industrial modernization was not completed before the introduction of American democratic success in transition countries, implementing us democracy the mess of country examples are abound. Chinese industrialization of reality is not yet complete, the information society process to large population resource bottlenecks limiting serious, the widening gap between the rich and the serious social problems of corruption in the Government and ruling party proliferation is imperative to fully respond to the rest of the community. In these circumstances, instigating a radical change of course animators I easily in some young intellectuals who produce star influence, but social results? people can imagine. One of the results is to produce a earn eye "political Star" — he Weifang has been hailed as the most daring to speak of "China law sector of conscience", yanlieshan has been hailed as some people dare to speak of the "most critics", is known as the South, El "China's most daring to tell the truth of the newspaper". Their so-called "
dare say" simply illustrates the three issues: first, the Chinese society today's "freedom of expression-freedom" is really a big surprise; second, that proof of remarks on community newspapers is not responsible, and shall not be liable for the consequences of the expression; third, and perhaps also demonstrated another point, the Gallery of radical propositions, and newspaper circulation, advertising and personal reputation is related. Please allow me to express a judgment: do not know, what do you think that radical changes in China's political ideas, to worship a ballot paper strength as the forerunner, take the mistrust of the Government as a target, with constantly attacked by irrational emotion expression of characteristics that greatly on the banner with "universal values", and the so-called universal values through the media of publicity has been preheated won the moral potential, this is an opinion of transformers ... I wish I had to express a deep concern. A catharsis, letting it is terrible, a rampant, letting it has generated awareness of dereliction of duty. You did not ask the significance of my events? battlefield sniper role, or the House is on fire after fire, may be the significance of it. Obviously, against universal value MLM, lie the lies we are passive, not to, at most a checks and balances of the conservative forces. Reuters reporter: you think the media lack distinctive conservative views? Sima NaN: Yes. For some media error trends and extreme points of view, the lack of clear-cut criticized, like not dare "active ideological struggle" (Mao). On several writers, historians, jurists, philosophers face appears, in fact or conscience greatly broken, or the brain out of theIssue. Anti-social extremists, our opinion too tolerant, but afraid of the bad guys like good people, you do not have this feeling? "the good and bad of a standard, simple, just one look at the how to deal with national and State interests, look at its end is the maintenance to defend the country's fundamental interests, or prejudice to the fundamental interests of the State. You may hear this argument, however, unclear whether if this was some friends hear, and effortless to list a list. Today's China, ideological front very clear-cut. About the universal values of understanding, if there is difficulty, to foreign reporters, probably difficult here — background projection is too complex, many discussions words had a hidden meaning, therefore, should learn listening carefully to capture sound, asides. Reuters reporters: slowly learning. So, why your article so much influence?: Sima Nan? to only some of the people have touched. I'm on "Southern weekend" criticism, in fact, in my own blog posted a few articles, the number of daily production around the world, who look at Ah Bo? why put up with so few articles that will have some repercussions? why do some people make such a pressing a series of reactions? not I like, I think it may be because the article says the number of people want to say and not say where the fellow who caused a resonance, while in others there had a horrid effect. They say I'm a conservative, I will admit, it more than other nasty words also better. Someone called me a "*** Hawk dog", said I was "*** dog", "* * autocratic accomplice" (laughs) well, this just proves that China today need so conservative that power. Use the "conservative forces," the word, on the United Kingdom but, rather, France, may be easier to understand some (smiling), radical Rousseau is France man. Today, conservative often means responsibility means that rational, means that the balance step go, rather sharp shocks China stock market, walking the infants or shock therapy. China's changing fast enough, they also fast enough, they may be a natural fit for racing, such as Han Han (smiling). Today this radical "voting style democracy," this kind of "election advertising," superstition is a pretty terrible. My age who experienced the cultural revolution, you must have the Chinese Tong, China was very understanding, but you do not have the experience of a cultural revolution. At that time, Daming, big, large, big debate, numerous organizations (political parties) are up in arms, Chairman Mao is still the absolute authority, society is also a mess. It's a great democracy, post-modern sense of democracy, however, and orderly society cannot afford. So 30 years China has not ceased to reflection and discussion of the cultural revolution, Mao certainly positive evaluation, therefore. People who have experienced the cultural revolution, few would favour radical political change, the name of universal value under the banner of the radical political change seeing the same without question. About universal values, my basic view is that universal values "the word" certainly exists, its linguistic sense of exploration I favour articulation. With its close to the "common values" and "fundamental values" and "base value", "most people value," and "basic consensus", etc. should also be included in the inquiry. I on the "social Linguistics" very interested, the "TG genre" Chomsky is fun, his learning in different disciplines "TG" and "genre", do have the insight, "Southern weekend" on universal values should ask Chomsky (laughter) … Yes, it is a well-known leftist academics in the United States. In short, the "universal values" is there? you can express their opinions, for an in-depth discussion, the its as a topic I have no opinion, certainly not against it. However, since you come to China to pyramid selling it, public places so long, "universal values" many lives, many masters, have allowed us to ask a few why. "Universal values" come from? how to introduction of? who? we know the concept of "value" is derived from the usefulness of the areas of economics; the "value" is the value that is subjective, based on the principal judgment, and the specific history and culture of the system. Now a "value" suddenly Johnny, and superior to other value above, flies Rainbow, tianma to null, snapped a transformers debut (laughs), hung on the universal force universal, ask a few why should not we? "universal values", which is what people decide how? is South of journalists believe that respected advocate of the "voting"? who participated in voting? voting procedures designed by who? "often stressed, jurist legal justice, procedural justice", "legal history is the history of the program." Since claimed that the "universal", and that the "one-size-fits-all, pass through the ancient and travel" (laughs) you laugh? you know before sentence is we? Chairman Mao's special words, tells of the Marxist wins the argument that the Communist Party of China today has changed. So, what form throughout the world through a new value for the status of the universal value? someone said "people have in common, human nature is a universal value, Sima NaN does not recognize the universal value is the condition of non-human" (smiling). Say that man nerd, for gas, since you can have a listen. "Southern weekend" as the "universal values" MLM participants, may not accept this kind of casually counterproductive behavior.
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